Doctor Who Club of Australia

[Fantastic!]

I thought it was an absolutely fantastic two-parter to end a great season.

Was crying to see Rose/Billie leave, I thought the ending scenes were great, and IMHO, I think that The Doctor did say those 'three words' but we were cut off before Rose heard/saw them. (some time seemed to have passed before we cut back to him in the TARDIS).

Love David as the Doctor, but I'm ready for a companion who just assists. Rose was great as a plus one, but now I'd rather have stories about the Doc instead of the series being Rose-centered -mainly because I think I'll still be missing Rose.

Overall, I will definitely be buying the DVDs to re-watch and re-watch. a strong season IMO, some of the so-called 'worse' stories I enjoy because of the acting or the dialogue, but then, both my Sisters and my Brother all have completely different opinions on the stories, so I guess it's all personal taste.

Never could see what was specially great about TGITF, though Sophia is gorgeous -for me I more enjoyed seeing Sarah Jane back.

Can't possibly wait till next year!

[Firestarter]

[quote="Greg"][quote="Firestarter"]God I so agree. For me the whole Rose character just made me want to punch someone. RTD really needs to learn that the series is called Dr Who and [u]not[/u] Rose Tyler. Let's just hope the next companion simply is there to help the Dr and not to have the series based around them.[/quote]

Funny thing is, of course, that for most of the very first season of the show, it could just as easily have been called Ian Chesteron and Barbara Wright, and for the last season of the classic series it could have been called Ace. Having the companions in roles that rival or surpass that of the Doctor wasn't something that RTD came up with.

Shows where there are multiple lead characters is the norm these days, even when the show is named after only one of the characters.[/quote]

I know what your saying but I think there's a difference between mulitple lead characters and focusing the whole show around the offsider. For instance you never had a Batman episode that was entirely focussed around Robin, let alone an entire season or two.

Either way though, I think I just really ,hated the Rose character. So while season 1 and sesaon 26 may have also had their sub plots focussed around offsiders I could handle it because I enjoyed the characters.

[Commander]

And also, Season 1 introduced the whole concept of the Doctor to the world, more people would have been facinated by his mystery and why he takes companions etc. And I found Season 26 was pretty equal as the stories were focussed around Ace and her life, but the Doctor was more interesting given the element of mystery about him

[Raevyn]

I loved Doomsday, it was by far one of the best, if not the best episode of this season.

I noticed a few people don't like Rose, and although I do admit she had more focus on her than a companion normally would, I think it was to show her development and how in turn, it affected the Doctor.
It was unfortunate that the writers only started to fully develop Rose's Character in the last few episodes. I think there would have been some great possibilities had her character been developed sooner.

As for the last scenes between The Doctor and Rose, dramatic, yes. Emotional, yes. But I wasn't suprised, the Doctor's feelings had been hinted at all along, as had Rose's.
I was sitting there, watching, tears rolling down my cheeks when I heard a little sob next to me. I turned in suprise, it was my 8 year old Daughter. She was crying. She has never cried at any TV show before, until now.

The fact that thier parting caused many a tear, not just from the fans but apparently also from the crew filming the scenes at the time, attests to the quality of the acting as well as the writing.

I don't think the emotion was out of place, The Doctor does have feelings and when it comes down to it, people watch people. The more they can relate to a character, the more they'll care about the character and want to watch.

So all in all, I think it was nicely handled and in true WHO style, The Doctor isn't left to mope, but has to deal with the sudden and unexpected.

WHAT!

[Sulp Niar]

There were so many plotholes I don't know where to begin! Why would the Time Lords bother catching Daleks, and if they could do that then how the hell did they lose the Time War? How did Pete know exactly when to warp back? Did the conversion process halt midway on Yvonne or something, because I don't remember this happening - or was it just a cheap link to Spare Parts? How is the beach called Bad Wolf Beach? Did Rose, when she was the Bad Wolf, see herself leaving and name the beach for that reason? If so what's the point? And although I can accept the void sucking them all in on a superficial level, not all of the Cybermen would have been sucked in - remember that some were converted in our universe.

This episode suffered from too much packed in too. The Daleks, the Cybermen, Pete, Mickey, Rose's "death", Jackie, Torchwood, even a mention of Harriet Jones... there was too much in there so nothing really had the chance to breathe. Consequently RTD was forced to make some elements a bit unsatisfying in order to let the others breathe.

BUT...

But... all round this was a quality two-parter. When he does let concepts breathe, by god he goes for it. The whole Rose plotline and the way it was handled was exceptional. The Daleks were hilarious bitchy and great schemers at the same time, while the Cybermen were powerful and logical. Despite what I expected, both were written faithfully and it was entirely possible that this war could have happened. Thumbs up for that.

The locations and sets looked fantastic. The acting was top-notch. Billie Piper of course stole the show, but others were just as great. Shaun Dingwell, Noel Clarke... the whole lot. Tennant didn't get much of a chance to shine throughout, relegated to his typical over-the-top eccentric Doctor performance (this isn't actually a criticism), but at the end his performance is brilliant.

I'm actually glad that the Doctor didn't get to tell Rose that he loved her. Not because I hate the idea of a romance with a companion. But there's three reasons that I thought it was a good decision: first of all, it was a surprise that he got cut off, and I was shocked. It's more powerful than him actually saying it; secondly, if the Doctor had actually said it then that makes the statement concrete, and consequently I can't see him ever getting over Rose. This way he can get past it and move on with Martha. As much as I like Rose, having him pine over her when he's with a new companion would be silly; and thirdly, you have to remember that the Doctor is a geek and that he's new to this kind of thing. I think I can safely say most people regret that instance where they had the chance to tell that particular person "I love you" but didn't. Admittedly this wasn't because the Doctor didn't have confidence to do so in the ep, but all through the series he hasn't been able to say it. I think this is what makes it unique, that he gets to feel more and more human emotions and more pain than he otherwise would.

Overall then, a stirring and brilliant finale. As a side note, another great thing that I can say about this is that I was so absorbed in the story that the music didn't intrude at all! (Actually there was one bit, when Yvonne was watching the Doctor through a monitor, but that was all)

Even though I was getting a bit sick of Rose, I know that I'll look back on her era in the future and say "boy, she was the best companion ever!" Time makes things better. Like the Doctor's feelings. Time heals...

And I can't wait for Series Three.

[Theta Sigma]

[Sulp Niar]

Yeah, but to be honest I'm waiting for Series Three more than Sarah Jane, Torchwood... and I was including "The Runaway Bride" in Series Three because that's the way the ABC plays it, even though I know it's not actually part of the series.

Either way, I can't wait.

[montypython]

Okay, if everything that had been through the void got sucked into it, what about the TARDIS?

[Tom N.]

[Tegan]