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The Christmas Invasion (broadcast 8/7 in Australia)
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How do you rate the The Christmas Invasion?
Excellent
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Very Good
60%
 60%  [ 15 ]
Good
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Fair
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Turkey
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 25

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Theta Sigma



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case people did not notice it when Danny Llewellyn addresses the media following the disappearance of Guinevere One, he was standing in front of the sign of the name of the group he was working for. However viewers could not see the group's full name. I only found out the name of the group when I read the sypnosis of the episode on the Doctor Who Reference Guide. The name of the group is the British Rocket Group. The British Rocket Group was headed by Professor Bernard Quatermass in the Quatermass serials. Incidentally David Tennant was in The Quatermass Experiment remake last year when it was announced that he was going to replace Chris Eccleston as the Doctor.
The first and not last mention of Torchwood.
So funny the Lion King line.
The Doctor's fight with the Sycorax leader was so Star Warssy even with him losing his hand (before it gets grown back).
The Doctor dresses up like Arthur Dent and he even mentioned meeting him.
Weeks ago after I first saw the episode I submitted the following to TV.com which was ultimately accepted regarding Harriet's tenure as Prime Minister:
"At the end of this episode it is implied that Harriet Jones is finished as Prime Minister. This is despite the fact that the Ninth Doctor told Rose in World War Three that Harriet served three consecutive terms as Prime Minister. That would mean she would have been in office for up to fifteen years. Yet in this episode it is apparent that not a lot of time have passed since Jackie and Mickey last saw Rose in Parting of the Ways. Has the Doctor altered history?
Another thing is that Harriet told the Doctor that she won in a landslide yet she seems in danger of losing a no confidence vote mentioned in the news bulletin. If Harriet has such a big majority in Parliament this would mean for her to lose the vote, a mass defection from her own ranks would have to vote against her. In reality a mass defection of Government MPs bringing down their own government is very unlikely."
This is probably not surprising since Russell T. Davies had written the earlier Aliens of London & World War III in which an unknown backbencher becomes Acting Prime Minister. This really goes to show that he does not know much about politics. It is therefore my opinion that he should not write anymore episodes that involves politics since he clearly does not know much about the subject.

Like the song when the Doctor changes clothes and the Christmas dinner. I even noticed the Fourth Doctor's crimson scarf.

The next time trailer was very good which included Pauline Collins, Lis Sladen, K-9 and Tony Head.
Interstingly as Pauline will soon be seen as Queen Victoria as revealed in the trailer, the next night, last night I saw her in the debut of Bleak House in which she plays a woman living in.....Victorian times.

As well as that trailer I saw Lis in Genesis of A Classic on the Genesis of the Daleks DVD on the weekend and she looks more attractive here than in the upcoming episode she will be in.

Tony Head is definitely a reason for Buffy fans to look forward to.

The theme tune sounds slightly different in the end credits and I really like it. Although I have seen this episode before this is the first time I noticed the credit to the CBC.
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dave



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TS, on the commentary for this episode, they said the final shot of the Doctor standing in his dressing room contains the costumes of all the previous incarnations. If you pause it, they're all there...

Just one for the trainspotters Very Happy
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Greg
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theta Sigma wrote:
The first and not last mention of Torchwood.


Definitely not the first mention of Torchwood - it got mentioned in Bad Wolf last year!
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Theta Sigma



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg wrote:
Theta Sigma wrote:
The first and not last mention of Torchwood.


Definitely not the first mention of Torchwood - it got mentioned in Bad Wolf last year!


Oops completely forgotten about it. Well it has been a while since I seen Bad Wolf.

So what I should have said is the the first mention of Torchwood in this run of episodes on the ABC.
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charlie



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upon watching this episode again I believe I saw a costume, in the wardrobe scene, that is used in an upcoming episode, not to give anything away of course.

Another Star Warrsy bit was the Death Star Firing at the end there.
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Darth Sidious



Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm usually positive about new Who (i actually liked the new series last year then most people on other forums anyway) but I really disliked the Xmas Invasion. Very childish and lacked any serious drama whatsoever. I know the show is targeted at a family audience, but it just was too kiddy orientated for me. Also I am sick of Seeing more of Jackie Tyler. I can accept Mickey as he is an important part of the ongoing narrative, but this series is starting to become a bit soap-operaish.
I suppose I'll cut it a slack as it's an Christmas special, but it still gets a turkey vote from me.
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dunmall



Joined: 02 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, while it was fun it wasnt anything special, although the updated UNIT was cool Smile
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g,uest



Joined: 17 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlie wrote:
While the Doctor was laying in bed I half expected him to sit up and start worring about his shoes.


This episode & (Rose) feel like the first 'Pertwee-story,
and the bit where the guy who is killed by the electric-whip Is like
the final bit in the 'DAEMONS with Azal
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Dazzler



Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 75
Location: Gold Coast, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see less of Jackie and Mickey too. To be honest, I'd like to see the Mickey-Rose-Doctor triangle resolved so they don't keep coming back to Earth and Mickey acts the same way.

I don't want the series to turn into a soap opera, and I'd like to see some more scientific fun like in the old series. Give it back it's old fashioned roots of good old science and less action and more mysteries maybe. I still haven't seen the rest of the series so I'll wait till after to judge.
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Sulp Niar



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theta Sigma wrote:
This is probably not surprising since Russell T. Davies had written the earlier Aliens of London & World War III in which an unknown backbencher becomes Acting Prime Minister. This really goes to show that he does not know much about politics. It is therefore my opinion that he should not write anymore episodes that involves politics since he clearly does not know much about the subject.


Just adding to that, the fact that she goes on national television and practically breaks into tears is certainly not what any sane politician would do, especially when pleading for the help of a man the public generally don't know.
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dunmall



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but it was a cool nod to Superman 2 Smile
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MikeYates



Joined: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 98

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Why stop there Reply with quote

Theta Sigma wrote:
It is therefore my opinion that he should not write anymore episodes that involves politics since he clearly does not know much about the subject.


It is my opinion that Russel T. should have never written for Doctor Who!

I say i am one of the biggest critics of 1st season of Doctor Who. But i was pleasently surprised by what we got in the Christmas Invasion, i felt it was something a lot more 'whoish' that what we've gotten thus far. A proper Alien Invasion, a proper use of UNIT and a more 'whoish' type victory over the Sycorax. Then hitting us with the Torchwood defence device (BOOM) was definetly a shock to the system.
Although too much Jackie/Mickey/Rose stuff going on Twisted Evil

Still all hope may not be lost yet!
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