Doctor Who Club of Australia

Ickabod · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 592 Location: far far away

Nice bit of "fluff" and yeah a bad pun on words....but I thoroughly enjoyes it..I cried when Boe died...."Something wicked this way comes"...springs to mind....and I've been stuck in the M3 tunnel...not fun at all

Sulp Niar · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject:

Interesting that you should say "Something wicked this way comes"... I was thinking, do you reckon the kiddies will be watching Doctor Who or reading Harry Potter come Saturday? I doubt they'll do both, considering how suck-in-able those books are. Who or You-Know Who?

Plus, next episode will have - and the trailer said this, so it isn't a spoiler - the Daleks. That'd make it even harder for the kiddies to decide.

montypython · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject:

Sulp Niar · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:53 am Post subject:

You'd be surprised how sucked in these kiddies get. And, to be fair, I'll be too - although I plan to read it during the day so as to completely avoid spoilers.

charlie · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject:

I'm sick to death of the Doctor knowing every species in the universe over all time back to front- even by their cries. And every race having enslaved Earth billions of years ago and then gone extinct. IT probably hasn't happened that many times but it seems like every third episode to me.

And I don't see how a virus can die since they aren't alive in the first place.

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

Poor.

I liked the cat with the Irish accent - but little else. Mind you, how a member of an alien species could manage to have an accent that was around 5 000 000 000 years before, on an extinct planet that was 50 000 light years away beats the hell out of me.

And in "New Earth", the Doctor stated that New Earth was in another galaxy. Now he says it's just 50 000 light years away from where Earth was. That puts it within the same galaxy - or just outside the fringe. Well done RTD - never let it be said that you let intelligent thought get in the way of ou telling a mindless and meaningless story.

However, I did notice that while RTD was unable to find a decent use for the Macra, or have the ability to follow the continuity that he set down in the previous story in this particular story arc, that he did take time out to show us the offspring of a Cat and a Human... Well done, RTD, now you can add beastiality to the list of other sexual pursuits that you have so richly invested the new DW with.

And I noticed Rose going on about how she had no idea about who the Doctor was, that he was a complete stranger to her, so on and so forth... Oh hang on, it was Martha - not Rose! Now how could I make such a basic mistake? Could it be because the dialogue was basically the same as what we heard in "The End of the World"...?

And as for the Macra... well the less said about them the better. I suppose the differences between their first appearance and this one can be put down the evolution - or devolution...

But I always knew RTD would give Doctor Who crabs if he got the chance...

charlie · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject:

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

"The TARDIS translates for us. It's unlikely he was using English."

So why would the technological product of an alien civilization - which no longer exists - translate what is said by a member of another alien species in an accent that was around 5 000 000 000 years before, on yet another extinct planet that was 50 000 light years away from where the story was set?

Tegan · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

"When the situation arises in real life, we can get back to you, until then enjoy the show."

And who says I am not already enjoying it?

We can all enjoy it in our own way...

Tegan · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject:

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

"The point of the reply was not the enjoyment of the show. I never wrote that I thought you weren't."

My reply was meant as more of a rhetorical question than anything else.

"Maybe I should have written continue to enjoy the show."

No, it's okay. I understood what you meant. Perhaps I should have been clearer.

"The point was that Science Fiction need not be entirely logical or scientifically perfect."

No, but it's nice when they at least try.

"If it were so, it would hardly be fiction, would it?"

There is no reson why it cannot be scientifically intelligent and fictionally enjoyable at the same time. In fact, I find that the first often affects the second for me.

"There is a concept called "suspension of disbelief"."

I've heard of it - I just do not submit to it overly easily.

"Or to put it simply, go with the flow."

That can be effective - so can going one's own way.

Cheers,

Greg · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:51 am Post subject:

*shrugs* Translation is done by an alien vessel which was never in the rest of repair, and appears to have been substantially rebuilt with whatever materials were to hand after severe damage. It wouldn't surprise me if there were some quirks in its operation, and translating from one language to another sometimes giving one character an accent might be such a quirk.

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

Tegan · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject:

kangamac · Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 2772

Speckled Jim · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 142 Location: Auckland, Un Zud

Not a bad story, but by no means great. I must say, when I see "by RTD" in the opening credits of any story I've learnt not to expect much, which is cynical, but, well....
Anyhow, it was a pretty engrossing little plot, even if the delivery was a tad clunky. Like most of RTD's stuff it had a Hollywood candy feel to it - lots of dramatic music, emotional dross and high fives and hugs all round when the motorway roof opens - but it was good to see the Macra return, even if they were woefully underused. They just seemed to be shoved in there as a nod to old fans. The rather rushed excuse that they'd "devolved" was a poor way of explaining their reduction to mindless predators swimming round the bottom of a giant motorway.
Overall I'm just a bit dismayed at RTD's lack of imagination. He set his story in the year 5 billion, giving him a hugely broad canvas to paint upon; yet we get a world that looks like a pantomime version of the near future. Seriously, are cat people and hover cars the best he can come up with? And when are we going to see a story set ON ANOTHER PLANET (and not just a simulacrum of Earth)?
Nyeh. I know this series gets a lot better, but it's a pain having to trawl through this poorly sketched junk first.